Saturday, 26 June 2010

FA Cup

In this new series covering every competition Norwich City have played in, we start with the Football Association Challenge Cup, or the FA Cup as it is commonly known as. On 20th September 1902, City played in this cup for the first time. In fact it was our first competitive game of any kind. Still an amateur club, and just over three months old, our opponents were Lowestoft Town, a very good side in those days, and very much more well established than Norwich. The game took place at Lowestoft and City were thumped 5-0. It was a disappointing, though maybe partly expected, result.

Lowestoft were to go on to be champions of the Norfolk & Suffolk League that season and it was after all only the third game Norwich had played in - the other two being friendlies against Harwich & Parkeston (1-1) and Yarmouth Town (a 3-2 defeat). The following season the Citizens (as City were then known) gained sweet revenge at Newmarket Road, defeating Lowestoft 4-1 in the preliminary round of the competition in front of 4,000 spectators. Wins at Yarmouth Town and Harwich & Parkeston followed, meaning Norwich City had reached the 3rd Round Qualifying stage where they were drawn against West Norwood at home.

The game ended 1-1 but City declined to take part in the replay because a FA Amateur Cup game was scheduled two days later. They therefore had to withdraw from the competition - unbeaten I should add ! It is an indication of the priority of the two competitions back in the early 1900's, certainly as far as amateur clubs were concerned.

A few years later of course, we were to turn professional and join the Southern League, and we gained a quick reputation as giant-killers. On 11th January 1908, as the Canaries, we stunned the FA Cup holders The Wednesday (later to be known as Sheffield Wednesday) 2-0 in the 1st Round at Newmarket Road with over 10,000 people witnessing goals from James Bauchop and Tommy Allsopp. The following season we humbled Liverpool 3-2 away in a game watched by 32,000 people, easily the biggest crowd Norwich had ever played in front of. It was a huge achievement for what was still after all a fledgling club.

In 1911 it was the turn of Sunderland, who finished the season as the third best side in England, to be scuppered - 3-1 at The Nest. Other notable acts of FA Cup giant killing by Norwich City include beating Arsenal 2-1 in 1954 and league champions Manchester United 2-1 in 1967. In 1945-46 season, City lost twice in the FA Cup! Known as the 'transitional season', because many clubs were still fielding guests as they waited for their players to return from war, the competition was played, for the only time in history, over two legs. City lost both their matches against Brighton & Hove Albion.

Norwich City's greatest period of FA Cup glory came in 1958-59 when they became only the third team from the Third Division to reach the semi-final of the competition, collecting the scalps of Manchester United, Cardiff City, Tottenham Hotspur and Sheffield United on the way, before losing to Luton Town 1-0 in a replay. On two other occasions the Canaries fell just one game short of the Final, losing 1-0 on both occasions to Everton in 1989 and Sunderland in 1992. These were to prove to be the closest we have come to winning the cup. In 1963, the competition provided our highest ever home attendance, 43,984 at Carrow Road against Leicester City in the 6th Round.

The first FA Cup was played for in 1871-72, thirty years before Norwich City were formed. Wanderers, a team from London and made up of former public schoolboys were the first winners beating Royal Engineers 1-0. Wanderers in fact won five of the first seven competitions. The first final took place at Kennington Oval, and later finals took place at the Racecourse Ground in Derby, Bramall Lane Sheffield, Crystal Palace Park and Stamford Bridge. In 1901, Tottenham Hotspur, then of the Southern League, became the only non-league side in history to lift the cup. The traditional home of Wembley stadium was first used in 1923 - famously known as the White Horse Final. Bolton Wanderers beat West Ham United 2-0 in front of an official crowd of 126,047, though it is estimated as many as 300,000 could have been present. The engaging image of the day was of a policeman on a light coloured horse trying to push the crowd back as they spilled onto the pitch.

Wembley has hosted the final ever since, apart from during it's re-building when the event transferred to Cardiff's Millennium Stadium. Currently the FA Cup takes place over 14 Rounds and 762 teams took part last year. The lowest placed side in the English pyramid to reach the 3rd Round were Chasetown, who in 2007-2008 season were in the 8th tier. In history, the most prolific winners have been Manchester United with 11 wins, followed by Arsenal (10) and Tottenham Hotspur (8).

The present FA Cup, won last season by Chelsea, is the fourth actual trophy that has existed. The original cup was stolen in 1895 whilst in the possession of holders Aston Villa. Many years later the thief admitted it had been melted down to make half crowns. Aston Villa were fined £25 by the FA for their carelessness. The replacement trophy lasted until 1910. Incidentally it was purchased at auction in 2005 for £420,000 by David Gold, presently chairman of West Ham United. The third cup was played for from 1911 until 1992. It is now considered too fragile to be moved.

Of all English football competitions, the FA Cup is without doubt the most romantic, and arguably the most exciting. Over the years it has provided many magic moments, not least with regards to giant-killing, to which Norwich City have played their part. Apart from the war years when the competition was suspended, we have taken part every year since 1902, as indeed we will do in 2011 and beyond.



Pictured : middle - fans spill onto the pitch during the 1923 FA Cup Final, above - Norwich City versus Leicester City 1963 - the biggest ever attendance at Carrow Road 


It is my intention to do a feature on every competition Norwich City have taken part in, chronologically - click on the label below to source other items in the series already posted

Friday, 25 June 2010

Final League Placings 1911-1912



Southern League 1911-1912
First Division







Queens Park Rangers 53
Plymouth Argyle  52
Northampton Town  51
Swindon Town  48
Brighton and Hove Albion  47
Coventry City  42
Crystal Palace  40
Millwall  40
Watford  36
Stoke  36
Reading  36
Norwich City  34
West Ham United  33
Brentford  33
Exeter City  33
Southampton  31
Bristol Rovers  31
New Brompton  31
Luton Town  28
Leyton  25


Full City Record :  P38 W10 D14 L14 F40 A60 PTS 34            Manager : Bert Stansfield


Blackburn Rovers were English champions
Barnsley won the FA Cup


In This Year :  Roald Amundsen reaches the South Pole

RMS Titanic sinks

The summer Olympics take place in Stockholm


Final league placings will be posted on a regular basis until every table is listed - click on label below for years posted so far

Monday, 14 June 2010

Competitions

I will soon begin a new regular feature series on the competitions Norwich City Football Club have taken part in. I will do them chronologically and each feature will contain as much information as I can dig out on the history of that competition. Hopefully once completed it will help sort out some of the confusion regarding league names and at which level of English football they stood.

Before starting the series I needed to compile a list of the competitions, and I could not believe we have featured in no less than 27 different leagues, divisions and cups. If I feature one a month on Sing Up The River End! that is two and a half years before the series is complete. Oh well, best I get on with it then - but as a starter, here is the definitive list , showing the dates of our first and most recent appearances :

1   FA Cup    1902 - 2013
2   Norfolk & Suffolk League   1902 - 1905
3   FA Amateur Cup   1902 - 1904
4   Norfolk Senior Cup   1902 - 1904
5   Norfolk & Norwich Hospital Cup 1904 - 1960, 1989 & 1991
6   Southern League   1905 - 1920
7   United League   1906 - 1909
8   Southern Charity Cup   1913 - 1914
9   Division Three   1920 - 1921, 1958-1960
10 Division Three South   1921 - 1934, 1946 - 1958
11 Division Three South Cup   1934
12 Division Two   1934 - 1939, 1960 - 1972, 1974 - 1975, 1981 - 1982, 1985 - 1986
13 Football League Cup   1960 - 2012
14 Division One (old)   1972 -1974, 1975 - 1981, 1982 - 1985, 1986 - 1992
15 Texaco Cup   1972-1974
16 Anglo-Scottish Cup   1975 - 1978
17 Football League Group Cup / Football League Trophy   1981 - 1983,  2009 (JPT)
18 Screen Sport Super Cup  1985 - 1986
19 Full Members Cup   1986 - 1987
20 Simod Cup   1988
21 Zenith Data Systems Cup   1989 - 1991
22 Premier League   1992 - 1995, 2004 - 2005, 2011 - 2013
23 UEFA Cup   1993
24 Division One (new)   1995 - 2004
25 Football League Play-Offs   2002
26 Championship   2005 - 2009, 2010 - 2011
27 League One   2009 - 2010

I have omitted the competitions we entered during World War Two as they were not official matches and City often fielded guest players from other clubs. The history of Norwich City Football Club during wartime will be covered elsewhere on the blog. Various charity games also took place annually , such as the Norfolk Charity Cup, Lynn Hospital Cup, Yarmouth Hospital Cup, Mayors Unemployment Fund, Ipswich Hospital Cup, and the Fishermans Charity against Lowestoft - again these were not official games and were basically friendlies in pre-season or after the season had ended. These have not been included. However, though not strictly a competition, I have included the Norfolk & Norwich Hospital Cup, which had a long history and some interesting stories surrounding it.

The final tally of 27 different competitions is also up for debate. Changes in names of sponsors meant some of the lesser valued trophies appeared as new events when in reality they were probably no more than re-branded tournaments that followed on from one another.
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Sunday, 13 June 2010

Losing Managers

On this blog on the 28th February 2010, I listed the Norwich City managers who had achieved the highest winning percentages. In order to even things out, here is a list of the underachievers - those with a winning percentage of less than 30% :

Gary Megson 1995-1996  32 games   15.6%
Charles O'Hagan  1920-1921  21 games  19.0%
John Deehan  1994-1995  58 games  22.4%
Cyril Spiers  1946-1947  65 games  23.1%
Bert Gosnell  1921-1926  233 games  25.3%
Bryan Hamilton  2000  35 games  28.6%
Bryan Gunn 2009  21 games  28.6%
Cecil Potter  1926-1929  101 games 29.7%

Spare a thought for the Canary fans of the twenties and the playing record between 1920 and 1929 in Division Three South !



pictured : John Deehan - great City striker who was not as successful from the dug-out






Information on those winning managers with percentages over 40% can be found here  http://canaryseventyninety.blogspot.com/2010/02/winning-managers.html

Thursday, 10 June 2010

World Cup 2010 Connections

Five former Canaries find themselves in South Africa for the 2010 World Cup which starts tomorrow.

Robert Green (1997-2006) and Peter Crouch (2003) are there with England.

Dickson Etuhu (2005-2007) is part of the Nigerian squad.

Chris Killen (2009) New Zealand and David Carney (2009) Australia will also be hoping to shine on the world's biggest stage.

Norwich City Fan - Stephen Fry




Stephen Fry - actor, writer, journalist, comedian, television presenter and film director - Blackadder, Jeeves and Wooster, QI, Just A Minute - pipe smoker of the year, ubiquitous contributor to Twitter, confirmed fan of Norwich City Football Club








update : On August 13th 2010, it was announced that Stephen Fry would be joining the Board of Directors at Norwich City. 

It was reported on the BBC news site that Mr Fry said : "Having been shockingly overlooked by successive Norwich City managers all these years as a player, I have come to the sad conclusion that it is probably unlikely now that I will ever be picked to play for the first team.

"But I am happy instead to play my part in another capacity, as that of a proud and passionate ambassador for the great game of football.

"The day may still come when I am needed out on the pitch, I haven't entirely ruled that out, but until then I shall endeavour to serve with enthusiasm and energy, spreading the word far and wide of Norwich City Football Club and the pleasures and rewards to be had as a supporter."



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Tuesday, 1 June 2010

Final League Placings 1910-1911



Southern League 1910-1911
First Division







Swindon Town  53
Northampton Town  48
Brighton and Hove Albion  48
Crystal Palace  47
West Ham United  45
Queens Park Rangers  40
Leyton  40
Plymouth Argyle  39
Luton Town  38
Norwich City  38
Coventry City  38
Brentford  37
Exeter City  37
Watford  35
Millwall  31
Bristol Rovers  30
Southampton  30
New Brompton  30
Southend United  29
Portsmouth  27

Full City Record :    P38 W15 D8 L15 F46 A48 PTS 38          Manager : Bert Stansfield


Manchester United were English champions
Bradford City won the FA Cup

In This Year :  Marie Curie wins the Nobel Prize for Chemistry

First census of England and Wales takes place

Composer Gustav Mahler dies

Final league placings will be posted on a regular basis until every table is listed - click on label below for years posted so far
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