Monday, 29 March 2010

Final League Placings 1906-1907



Southern League 1906-1907
Division One







Fulham 53
Portsmouth 51
Brighton and Hove Albion 45
Luton Town 45
West Ham United 44
Tottenham Hotspur 43
Millwall 42
Norwich City 42
Watford 42
Brentford 42
Southampton 35
Reading 34
Leyton 34
Bristol Rovers 33
Plymouth Argyle 33
New Brompton 33
Swindon Town 33
Queens Park Rangers 32
Crystal Palace 25
Northampton Town 19

Full City Record : P38 W15 D12 L11 F57 A48 PTS 42       Manager : John Bowman

Newcastle United were English champions
The Wednesday won the FA Cup

In this year : HMS Dreadnought is commissioned

                     Baden-Powell forms the first Scout group

                     John Wayne is born

Final league placings will be posted on a regular basis until every table is listed - click on label below for years posted so far
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Tuesday, 23 March 2010

50 Not Out

When this item hits the front page of the blog in the next few days, SUTRE! will have around 50 posts to it's name. And, by design, this post is purposely going to be a traditional blog entry. I am just sitting here making it all up as I go along. No particular plan in mind. An entry in my diary that may or may not be read by somebody else.

I guess the thing I do have in my mind is to share the experience I have had in the last three months since I first had the idea of starting this blog. I can't say it has changed my lifestyle particularly, but it has meant re-allocating my time between my various hobbies. Presently I am spending more time on SUTRE! than any of the others.

Because I chose to record history rather than present, it takes me a whole lot of time and effort to get material. I may have a good idea for a feature in my head, but finding suitable information, especially the hard facts and figures, is challenging to say the least. Most days I am spending a minimum two hours on the site - once or twice it has been seven or eight ! Researching. Changing the layout. Reading back on old posts to re-check I have put the right information in.

But I must say I am very happy with what I am producing so far. At the end of the day, I might be the only regular visitor to the site (other than my wife who checks for typos for me), so as long as I am pleased, perhaps that's all that matters. But when I say happy so far I probably really mean that my enthusiasm for the project has if anything, increased. There are so many blogs out there that fizzle out after a short while - half a dozen good posts initially that leaves you thinking hey, this has potential, a couple more in the second month, then nothing for three months until the author pops back saying 'I have been so busy with other things............'

I have the great satisfaction that this blog is actually going the other way. So many ideas are floating around in my brain. If I do have a problem, it's keeping the brake on. I want to keep to the right pace - not for myself, but just in case people are watching regularly. I have at least a further 250 items to post going forward.

That's not to say they are are all ready for publication but I know what they are going to be and I currently have the luxury of preparing a day or two ahead. If I sat solidly for 3-4 hours a day (which I could do if I wanted to), I would easily be able to post half a dozen times a day. But I won't do that. The reason I chose blogging over merely creating a historic NCFC web site, is that adding as you go along, and in an informal way, is so much more fun. Like I said SUTRE! is a diary. A journal. It can be picked up or put down as quickly or as slowly as each individual viewer chooses.

Normally history is boring. In my schooldays it was about learning dates and events and pairing them together. I am trying very hard for this history lesson to be much more interesting. And I think I am, though I say it myself, largely succeeding with that. Some posts, such as the Final Placings series and others that need statistics and percentages, are very formal - I don't see what else I can do. But again that's the great thing about the blogging format. I can put posts in like this that breaks it all up a bit.

So, 50 on the board, I have my eye in, and already I have thoughts of reaching my maiden century. I have a couple of new series to introduce next month that are quite light and will add a bit more fun to the pages. My zeal shows no signs of flagging I am pleased to report.

Sunday, 21 March 2010

Final League Placings 1905-1906



Southern League 1905-1906
Division One







Fulham 50
Southampton 45
Portsmouth 43
Luton Town 41
Tottenham Hotspur 39
Plymouth Argyle 39
Norwich City 36
Bristol Rovers 35
Brentford 35
Reading 33
West Ham United 33
Millwall 33
Queens Park Rangers 31
Watford 26
Swindon 25
Brighton and Hove Albion 25
New Brompton 22
Northampton Town 21

Full City record : P34 W13 D10 L11 F46 A38 PTS 36        Manager : John Bowman

Liverpool were English champions
Everton won the FA Cup

In this year : The Wright Brothers' third aeroplane (Wright Flyer III) stays in the air for 39 minutes with Wilbur piloting. This is the first aeroplane flight lasting over half an hour.

Ascetic's Silver wins the Grand National

Rolls Royce Ltd becomes a registered company.

Final league placings will be posted on a regular basis until every table is listed - click on label below for years posted so far
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Thursday, 18 March 2010

Norwich City History Against......Swindon Town


87  league and cup games have taken place so far with this weekend's opponents, Swindon Town, with the series standing at :

Norwich City 35 wins
Swindon Town 26 wins
Draws 26

Norwich goals 137
Swindon goals 126

Competitive matches between the clubs date back to 1905 in the Southern League (not included in the above figures) and continued through to 1919 apart, of course, from the war years. The first match was on Christmas Day 1905 at Newmarket Road, which Norwich won 1-0. This era included Norwich City's worst ever defeat,10-2 on 5th September 1908. On 28th December of the following year Swindon beat us again 7-1.

The sides first met in the Football League in 1920-21, in the newly formed Division 3, Swindon winning 4-2 at home on 26 February 1921. The Norwich team that day was : Herbert Skermer, George Gray, Ernie Gadsden, Reg Wilkinson, Pompey Martin, George Addy, Billy Austin, George Travers, William Lumley, Vic Whitham and David Mellon. The goals were scored by Travers and Whitham. Norwich gained revenge a week later, winning 3-2 at The Nest (with William Pearce replacing Gadsden at full back, and Tommy Booth and Edward Laxton replacing Whitham and Mellon).Goals came from Travers, Booth and Lumley. Swindon were a good side that year, finishing fourth. They made a cracking start to league life - a 9-1 victory against Luton Town in their first match - a record league victory that stands to this day.

Norwich and Swindon remained in Division 3 South until the end of 1933-34 season when the Canaries won promotion, and it was not until 12th September 1946 that fixtures between the sides resumed with Swindon winning 5-1 at Carrow Rd. City finished that season in twenty first place, missing relegation only on goal average. The series continued until 1960 when Norwich were promoted to Division 2 once more - Swindon joined them a couple of years later but were relegated after two seasons. The golden era for the Robins came at the end of the '60's when they lifted the League Cup, beating Arsenal 3-1 at Wembley in 1969. However, being a third division side at the time they were unable to take their place in Europe.

Only a few fixtures followed between then and 1993 as Norwich rose to higher levels. Swindon did catch us up in 1993-94 when they were promoted to the Premier League under the leadership of Glenn Hoddle. They won promotion with a play-off victory over Leicester City. It wasn't a happy experience for them in the top flight however - Hoddle moved on to Chelsea and new manager John Gorman's side finished bottom with just 22 points. Steve McMahon was made manager the following season but another relegation put the Wiltshire side back into the third tier, though only for a season as they won the Second Division championship. With Norwich getting relegated themselves from the Premier that year, fixtures resumed once again.

Biggest wins have been 6-1 to Swindon in 1922, 5-0 to Norwich in 1998 and 5-2 to Norwich in 1932. The game played at Carrow Road on 24th October 2009 (won 1-0 by Norwich) was the first this century. The sides clashed again just a couple of weeks later in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy (0-0 this time with Norwich winning on penalties). The clubs have met 10 times in cup competitions - as well as the JPT, they have also played FA Cup, Zenith Data Systems Cup and Simod Cup matches. People with shared connections between the two clubs include Ian Culverhouse, Bryan Hamilton and Jamie Cureton.

pictured : Bryan Hamilton who played for Swindon Town 1978-1980, and was manager of Norwich City in 2000.
Update : match result Swindon Town 1 Norwich City 1

Thursday, 11 March 2010

Norwich City History Against......Huddersfield Town


There have been 38 games so far between Norwich City and Huddersfield Town with the series score reading :

Norwich wins   11
Huddersfield wins   11
Draws   16

Norwich goals   50
Huddersfield goals   39

In my lifetime, Norwich have largely held the better league position of the two teams. However, this has not always been the case. Despite being formed in 1908 and joining the Football League in 1910, it wasn't until 1960 that Huddersfield were in the same division as The Canaries - because it took until then for us to catch them up !! The first match was in the old Division 2 on 1st October 1960 and finished 2-0 to City.

Prior to then it was Huddersfield who were the bigger and more successful club, and especially in the 1920's, the golden era for the Yorkshiremen. They were Football League champions in 1923-24, 24-25, and 25-26 - the first side to win three successive titles. Furthermore they were runners up in the next two seasons. Before all this, they won the FA Cup in 1922.

In more modern times, Huddersfield have been stuck in the third tier for much of the time and have only encountered Norwich when they have managed to get up to tier two. Until this season of course. The match on December 19th 2009 was in tier three and finished 3-0 to City, with second half goals from Hoolahan, Martin and Doherty.

Should either side manage a win on Saturday they will take a lead in the series. Three of the matches to date have been in cup competitions - the sides drew 1-1 at Carrow Road in 1987 in the FA Cup but Norwich won the replay at Leeds Road 4-2. The only League Cup match was in 1967 when Huddersfield won 1-0 in East Anglia. All of the biggest league wins belong to Norwich - 4-1 in 1986, and 5-0 and 4-1 in 1998.

Amongst the players to have played for both clubs are Iwan Roberts, Mark Barham and David Phillips.

pictured : Iwan Roberts celebrating one of his 50 league goals for Huddersfield Town
Update :  match result Huddersfield Town 1 Norwich City 3

Wednesday, 10 March 2010

Farewell Chester City

Today in the High Court, it took less than half a minute for Chester City Football Club to be wound up. They owed just over £26,000 to HM Revenue & Customs. The club has ceased to exist after 125 years.

Norwich City never met Chester FC or Chester City (as they were known after 1983) in a league match. They joined the Football League in 1931-32 season. Although they played at the same level as us at times, they were of course Third Division North, so therefore geography dictated that our paths were never to cross in that competition. We were never drawn together in the FA Cup either. However four matches did take place in the League Cup :

1964                     Norwich 5  Chester 3
1970                     Norwich 0  Chester 0
1970   replay         Chester 1  Norwich 2
1978                     Chester 0  Norwich 2

Chester FC were formed in 1885 from an amalgamation of Chester Rovers and Old King's Scholars FC. Throughout their history they always appeared in the third, fourth and fifth levels of English football. They lost their Football League status in 2000, but got back in 2004 when they won the Conference, losing only four games in the whole season.

However, life in League Two proved a struggle on the pitch and mounting financial problems led to administration in the summer of 2009. Finishing in 23rd place meant a return to the Conference, initially with minus 10 points, later to be increased to minus 25 points. Following non payment of wages last month, the players refused to travel to a game at Forest Green Rovers. On February 18th they were expelled from the Conference, and earlier this week their seasonal records were expunged. A supporters group intends to resurrect the club and enter a new team into the lower leagues.

I can confidently say I never saw Chester play The Canaries. But today I feel for their supporters and their pretty city. Real football fans do not deserve outcomes like this. It would be great to see them salvage something from the mess and I hope they can return. Conceivably next time round, their club can be run sensibly and viably and by fans. It may be a long time before you play Norwich City again and I can only wish you all the luck in the world.




Good luck to all Chester City fans

Wednesday, 3 March 2010

Norwich City History Against......Yeovil Town


When Gary Doherty deflected a shot into the Yeovil Town net very late in the game on 12th Dec 2009, it ensured a sharing of the spoils in the one and only league encounter between the two clubs (3-3). The other three meetings have been in cup competitions  - 4-0 to Norwich in this seasons League Cup ( Bryan Gunn's last game as Norwich City manager), and two FA Cup ties both won by the Canaries, 3-0 in 1980 and 2-0 in 1953. The series score is therefore :

Norwich 3 wins
Yeovil 0 wins
Draws 1
Norwich goals 12
Yeovil goals 3

Yeovil Town, who for many years had been well known cup giantkillers with their famous sloping pitch, finally won through to the Football League by securing the Conference championship in 2002-03. A creditable 8th position in the first season was followed by winning the newly formed League 2 the following year. The Glovers have remained in League 1 since.

Few players have appeared for both clubs, though two current squad members, Michael Rose and Owain Tudur Jones have both had spells at the West country club.


pictured : Welsh international, Owain Tudur Jones, who has been on loan at Yeovil this season as he recovers from injury






Update : match result Norwich City 3 Yeovil Town 0